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Derby_Dogz_270
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 Posted - May 07 2005 : 14:51:12
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| has anyone heard of "floating" a radiator if so what does that mean |
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DemoCar82
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Posted - May 07 2005 : 17:12:59
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| Yeah, I used to run what I called "floating" radiators... it might be different that someone elses but... mine was strapped in a little loose, but secure enough to not go into the fan... and was padded all the way around so it had a lot of cushion. Basically they would "float" around in the core support enough to absorb impacts w/o taking damage, but be strapped in tight enough not to get into the fan or fall down, etc. I never had any problems with them, but changed to running solid mounted rads, which I like better. |
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Shorty Thompson
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DemoCar82
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Posted - May 08 2005 : 14:51:29
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| I frickin hate ratchet straps or seat belts to hold a rad. in. The first time someone convinced me to run them I took a shot in the nose, one came loose and wound up in my fan and snapped all my belts... talk about pissed. All I use now is #9 wire. |
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DAN33X
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Posted - May 08 2005 : 15:17:46
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i pad the the sides of the rad with old rad hoses then use wire and wire it tight to the hoses so that the hoses are a shock absorber for the rad ive also used ratchet straps and they seemed to work well if done right
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Shorty Thompson
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DemoCar82
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Posted - May 08 2005 : 17:32:02
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| I was using that Newport... gotta use the nose with that thing. LOL! No, just a bad experience, so I use #9 wire and have had no problems. 12.5 gauge wire also works very well. |
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stris141
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Posted - May 08 2005 : 17:37:12
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A friend of mine, did it a bit different. He got long bolts, and bolted them to the radiator support holes, with the heads toward the front. Then he cut a small piece of hose, and put it over the bolt. Then mounted the radiator, and another small piece of hose, and washer/nut. He said it gave some with hits. Sounded like a good idea. Don't seem to remember him losing a radiator, for the most part.
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Derby_Dogz_270
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Posted - May 08 2005 : 19:42:46
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So would u guys say that "floating" the radiator is a good idea or is better to leave them solid how do u guys do it do u take out the bolts holding it in and wrap it in with straps or wire |
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Sandman724
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Posted - May 08 2005 : 20:44:59
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Screw ratchet straps!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I have used them for 13 years and never had a problem with them. But if anyone was there, they know that they probably cost me being DENT Champion(no offense Toby) last year!!!!!! |
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DemoCar82
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stris141
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Posted - May 09 2005 : 02:38:10
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We just mount them stock. We use bailing wire, to act as a back up, in cause the bolts, etc give way.
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netmansteve
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Posted - May 11 2005 : 12:01:34
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| I use bungee cords. I just use 2 cords and make an X across the back of the radiator. I use pieces of old radiator hose to cushion it against the core support. Haven't had one fall out that way yet, and the bungees allow the radiator to move if the core support gets all FUBAR'd so that even if the core bends the rad stays straight longer. |
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Derby_Dogz_270
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Posted - May 11 2005 : 16:40:10
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| so r u saying that u take out the bolts and place it in there with just two bungee cords holding it in |
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netmansteve
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Posted - May 12 2005 : 21:35:03
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yes that is exactly what i'm saying
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mikkie
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Posted - May 15 2005 : 20:15:09
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| Thats how i do all my cars, id rather lose a few bungee cods then a rad, and i always run electric fans so that saves them also |
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nuckinfuts
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Posted - May 17 2005 : 23:14:14
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| i use #14 wire on my rad. i yank the regular fan and switch to an elec fan. hold the fan to the rad with the wire, then hold the rad to the upper part of the core support, a bit loose, with 2 more wires. |
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pbr10
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Posted - May 21 2005 : 05:02:00
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| better check your rules before you float one.....I know around here they won't let you have any kind of padding around the radiator. |
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netmansteve
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Posted - May 21 2005 : 12:35:28
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| using a couple of cut radiator hoses is hardly padding. The stock radiator sits in rubber mounts, same thing. :) |
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Derby_Dogz_270
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Posted - May 21 2005 : 23:06:13
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ok so what kind of bungee cords all rubber or nylon and rubber and how tight should they be and i dont think i can add padding so do u think that the stock rubber mounts would be enough
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netmansteve
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Posted - May 21 2005 : 23:29:15
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All rubber, and you don't want it loose at all. The rubber cords will allow the rad to flex with the core support. I use some mechanics wire in one spot in the center of the radiator and tie it to the core support with some slack, so that if the cords both get cut, the rad will still hang without falling out the bottom.
If you use the stock top mount for the rad, your radiator sits almost 2 inches away from the core support. If you take a piece of radiator hose, and cut a slit in it so that now it's a flat piece of rubber, you can fold that rubber over the core support and it just keeps the metal from cutting into the radiator. I don't think any self respecting inspector would consider it padding. It's like 1/4" thick. |
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Derby_Dogz_270
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Posted - May 23 2005 : 11:54:05
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| Ok ill c what i can get away with if they dont like it ill take it out thanx for the help guys |
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derbyman137
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Posted - May 23 2005 : 22:34:14
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| Yeah, I'm with Steve. I don't consider THAT padding at all. |
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Crash 21
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Posted - Dec 02 2005 : 20:13:30
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I know this is an old thread, but I wanted to put my two cents in. I asked the officials where I used to run what the "stock location" of the radiator was. They said "In front of the engine." So when I mounted my engine in my 73 t-bird, I mounted it back againt the firewall as far as I could. Then I moved the radiator back to about an inch in front of the water pump pully, made a frame out of that galvanized angle iron stuff with all the holes in it, leaving about an inch and a half all the way around the radiator. Then I filled the gap with that expanding foam stuff. after it hardened up a bit, I put a ratchet strap arountd the top, just in case. I then mounted my electric fan to the front of the radiator. Then I mounted an old a/c condensor in the original radiator mounting area, mostly to keep mud out of the radiator, but also to keep other people to see how far back I moved the radiator. I made sure the officials were the only ones around during inspection. They weren't real happy, but the radiator was still "in the stock location" according to what their definition was. It was awesome, I had two and a half feet between the front of the bumper and the radiator.
I know a lot of guys from back home that run the expanding foam. It's hard enough to hold the radiator in but soft enough to absorb some of the impact.
Sorry this was so long.
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killer_mopar426
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Posted - Dec 02 2005 : 23:51:38
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| in the past i just used the stock mounting, but in my latest car i just welded it in solid, but of course that was an imp, and if the core support on that thing bends that much something's wrong. how many of you guys have used radiator guards, for the last derby i welded a piece of that steel with the holes in it to my radiator on the fan side, my fan didn't get to the radiator then so i don't know how good it works yet. |
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Max Destruction
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Posted - Dec 06 2005 : 13:53:45
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| killers exactly right on that, with the right set up on the nose of an imp, ya shouldn't loose the it. |
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killer_mopar426
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killer_mopar426
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Posted - Dec 15 2005 : 00:16:13
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| aww come on gary, what are u trying to say???? you are joking right??? i might not have the prettiest welds, and not the quickest build time, but when i build a car i build it mean as fu ck. 3 months is about how long it took before i was happpy with the car, and ran it. |
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bigbadass261
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Posted - Feb 11 2007 : 04:09:33
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| i would float it with the padding and all that good stuff you want the rad to twist and give a little and you want the nose to give more than the rad. if you have it solid the it all gives together and we all know what happens then. ive floated mine since i started and ive never had aproblem at preble county other than my one stupid mistakes |
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"Floating" a radiator
. I used them often,. never had a problem . They may come loose, but if you tie them off then you'll have no problems.