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beginner
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Posted - Mar 09 2005 :  13:26:51  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
What is the best way to remove a weld. My situation is that i have to undo my plated trunk so i can get into the trunk is there in way to get the welds undone without cutting them or grinding or what is the easiest neatest way to do so.

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Posted - Mar 09 2005 :  14:14:31  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I've had to do that before, myself. One derby allowed welding the trunk, the other only chain. I used a torch, and cut at a shallow angle. Take your time, and it should come out half way nice. You'll get lots of slag, that needs to be broken. I just went along with a hammer, and smacked the cuts, after they cooled. Then use a big screwdriver or pry bar, and pry up along the seams. You'll see if there's anymore cutting to be done. I guess if you were good with a grinder, you could they that also.

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Posted - Mar 09 2005 :  16:31:19  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Use a circular saw with a metal cutting disc.Noisy but effective.Cutting beside the weld is usually
easier.
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derbyman137
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Posted - Mar 09 2005 :  19:00:31  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Yeah, weld is stronger than the metal. You dull the blade alot quicker cutting welds. Plasma cutters work great too.

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cole
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Posted - Mar 09 2005 :  20:46:51  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
4 1/2" grinder with 1/8" cutoff wheel best choice by far!!
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bahb140
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Posted - Mar 14 2005 :  20:03:19  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
have to agree with cole on this one angle grinder and a cutting disc kinda like what they use on american choppers works great and quick too

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Posted - Mar 14 2005 :  20:31:09  Show Profile  Send DemoCar82 a Yahoo! Message  Reply with Quote
Jeff is right on with the plasma cutter... zip thru anything like butter in seconds.

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McArthur
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Posted - Mar 17 2005 :  09:35:43  Show Profile  Send McArthur an AOL message  Send McArthur an ICQ Message  Reply with Quote
concrete saw with an abrasive blade for metal it will cut fast.The reason i say for metal is they make the same blade but it will say masonry on it.Both will work but the metal blades are a little better.The blades are only a few bucks a piece too.They will cut reagular steel,stainless steel,rerod,#9 wire,chain,anything that it will touch it will probably cut.

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Posted - Mar 17 2005 :  15:43:59  Show Profile  Send killer_mopar426 a Yahoo! Message  Reply with Quote
i usually weld plates on the trunks and just cut the plate in the middle with a hot wrench if i had to

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Posted - Dec 15 2005 :  13:40:05  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
[i]Originally posted by bahb140[/i]
[br]have to agree with cole on this one angle grinder and a cutting disc kinda like what they use on ame


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getbentdemo01
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Posted - Jan 06 2006 :  15:28:32  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
i used my arc welder just cranked it up all the way with some thin rods kinda messy but effective
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Posted - Jan 08 2006 :  09:35:29  Show Profile  Send the mailman a Yahoo! Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
[i]Originally posted by getbentdemo01[/i]
[br]i used my arc welder just cranked it up all the way with some thin rods kinda messy but effective


been there before,i use to do that same thing when i cut the bumper ends off my cars.glad to know i'm not the only one who has been in that boat.

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Bashbro
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Posted - Jan 09 2006 :  19:55:31  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
carbon arc gouge is the correct way. i think a cutting torch at an angle towards the plate would be the most painless.

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DemoCar82
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Posted - Jan 10 2006 :  09:22:07  Show Profile  Send DemoCar82 a Yahoo! Message  Reply with Quote
Yeah, I agree, an arc gouger definetly will take weld off quick and easy.

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killer_mopar426
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Posted - Feb 06 2006 :  23:03:02  Show Profile  Send killer_mopar426 a Yahoo! Message  Reply with Quote
at the welding shop at school they got this big azz ole school grinder and that thing will grind anything!!!! sh!t it'll try to take ur fingers if u don't watch it

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Posted - Feb 06 2006 :  23:12:51  Show Profile  Send DemoCar82 a Yahoo! Message  Reply with Quote
We had one back in high school, my instructor named it "Meat Grinder".

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stris141
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Posted - Feb 07 2006 :  13:53:03  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
A friend of mine, was working on the farms tractor, inside the shop. The grinder wheel broke, and part of it went up about 15', and stuck in the tin roof! Now it leaks there, in the rain.LOL But luckly, he didn't get hit by anything. And he usually does.LOL

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Demo Junkie 92
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Posted - Feb 08 2006 :  00:35:16  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I used to work for a buddy that owned a welding/machine shop and he had this old grinder that I swear would almost torque itself out of your hands just when you started it up.

Most people pull the trigger with their finger. I do it with my right foot.
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DemoCar82
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Posted - Feb 09 2006 :  07:26:35  Show Profile  Send DemoCar82 a Yahoo! Message  Reply with Quote
Anyone ever tried using a Carbon Air-Arc Gouger?

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stris141
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Posted - Feb 10 2006 :  15:24:25  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Never even heard of one.LOL But it sure sounds mean!

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derbyman137
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Posted - Feb 10 2006 :  18:06:32  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Never heard of it Jesse.

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DemoCar82
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Posted - Feb 10 2006 :  20:08:58  Show Profile  Send DemoCar82 a Yahoo! Message  Reply with Quote
It has a gun lead like a stick welder does... It takes a solid carbon rod, you hook it to a large stick welder (the work lead) and hook an air hose to it. Crank your amps up good, turn your air on and obliterate iron... virtually no grinding required. It is a little touchy and takes some getting used to, but if you need to get rid of a lot of steel/weld quick, its the way to go.

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Shorty Thompson
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Posted - Feb 11 2006 :  09:11:28  Show Profile  Send Shorty Thompson an AOL message  Reply with Quote
Jesse , you know of a website that might show 1 ? I had heard of 1 a while back , but have never seen 1 run .

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Posted - Feb 11 2006 :  10:56:22  Show Profile  Send netmansteve an AOL message  Send netmansteve a Yahoo! Message  Reply with Quote
A friend of mine used to work as a welder for big construction vehicles, and he used one on a fairly regular basis. From what I hear, pretty awesome.

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Posted - Feb 12 2006 :  13:41:13  Show Profile  Send Gfalls a Yahoo! Message  Reply with Quote
while were on the subject, Can a plasma cutter be used to remove welds just as good as it would work on normal sheetmetal and steels?

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Posted - Feb 12 2006 :  14:28:55  Show Profile  Send DemoCar82 a Yahoo! Message  Reply with Quote
I think it would be hard to remove a lot of weld/iron with a plasma cutter... I used the Carbon Air-Arc Gouger at work the other day, thats why I thought of it. They are pretty wicked to use.

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cheater 762
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Posted - Feb 12 2006 :  18:14:01  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
can you borrow that thing so we can all try it out LOL!!!!!!

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Demo Junkie 92
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Posted - Feb 12 2006 :  19:33:48  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
You get a big enough plasma cutter and she'll take off whatever you want. I got a friend who has one that will slice through 1" steel like it's butter.

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Posted - Feb 12 2006 :  20:11:50  Show Profile  Send Gfalls a Yahoo! Message  Reply with Quote
thats awesome Kyle, ive been looking at prices of them im just not sure Id use it enough to actually spend the money ya know? the ONLY time I do ANY metal work its on sheet metal on the car, or welding the skins together.

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Demo Junkie 92
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Posted - Feb 12 2006 :  22:35:24  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
And for that you only have to have a small plasma cutter for the job. But for a good one you are still talking $1000 +. For that you can get a good cut-off wheel,a torch,and a cheap chop-saw.

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Posted - Feb 13 2006 :  06:55:58  Show Profile  Send Gfalls a Yahoo! Message  Reply with Quote
I wouldnt use it enough to waste a grand on though Kyle. thats just too much for me I do like the way they cut though....man sure would be nice (day dreaming)

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Posted - Feb 13 2006 :  23:51:28  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I have a small one. The same size as my 135 Hobart welder. I like it alot better than torches for "precision cuts".

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Posted - Feb 14 2006 :  02:45:25  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Hell yes Jeff! They cut way faster,way easier, and with a lot less heat. Not to mention little or no slag. Ain't nothing like slicing threw metal and picking it up 10 seconds afterwards.

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Posted - Feb 14 2006 :  06:47:46  Show Profile  Send Gfalls a Yahoo! Message  Reply with Quote
yeah but Jeff, if ya dont mind man, can ya get me the specs off of it? id like one man, but I just dont know enough about them I guess. how thick of steel have ya tried to cut? how many amps, is it 110 or 220? thanks dude. will it cut through a car frame? or what size would be needed to cut through a car frame(for just incase reasons ya know)

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Plasma cutters are fricken awesome. I weld my doors shut w/ 3" X 1/8" strap iron, and instead of buying the strap for more money, I would just buy a 4' X 8' X 1/8" sheet and slice the whole thing up with a plas cutter in like 20 mins and I'd have enough strap to do like 3-4 cars. Gary, yes they will cut thru a car frame no problem. The smaller ones I used, sounds very similar to the one Jeff is using, would cut thru 1/2" plate w/o any problems.

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Posted - Feb 14 2006 :  07:45:51  Show Profile  Send Gfalls a Yahoo! Message  Reply with Quote
reomind me tonight Jess to show ya the one im thinking of buying. its DINKY

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Posted - Feb 15 2006 :  06:04:28  Show Profile  Send Coolcat a Yahoo! Message  Reply with Quote
Why would u want to remove welds?????????????????????????????
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Posted - Feb 15 2006 :  08:49:46  Show Profile  Send DemoCar82 a Yahoo! Message  Reply with Quote
I forgot to remind ya Gary, dang you!

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Posted - Feb 15 2006 :  17:09:26  Show Profile  Send Gfalls a Yahoo! Message  Reply with Quote
thats cuz all you wanted to do was derby derby derby dude.

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Posted - Feb 15 2006 :  19:11:34  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Jesse's right about the way it cuts. It will easily cut frame steel. I plan on experimenting with it this year.

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