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 Posted - Feb 03 2003 : 10:35:16
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| i got some fork lift tires the other day,they are15"and 18 ply and the side walls are about two inches thick, my question is ,is there a special way of puting these on since the sidewalls are so thick,i know some fork lifts have split rims will they go on a car rim |
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DirtySteve814
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Posted - Feb 03 2003 : 10:50:49
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You might be able to put them on with a machine...& maybe a lot of manual labor too. I know of some places around here that won't even attempt it because they are afraid that they'll damage their machine. You may end up having to mount them by hand. Either way, make sure you have plenty of pry bars & sledge hammers.
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car77
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Posted - Feb 03 2003 : 12:25:13
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| HI//// I USE FORK LIFT TIRES ALL THE TIME. THE BEST WAY TO MOUNT IS TAKE THEM TO A tire shop and have a can of hand cleaner with u and greas them up good so they slid on easyer. 1 more thing i have done is before u mount them if u heater to blow hot air on them this will soffen the tire up some. hope this helps good luck mounting. and for mounting by hand dont even ry it u will spend all day on 1 tire been there and done it . |
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Amcman47
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USA
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Posted - Feb 03 2003 : 23:16:17
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| I KNOW FORKLIFT TIRES ARE TUFF AND ALL , BUT I WOULD RATHER RUN A 700 SERIES TIRE INSTEAD BECAUSE A FORKLIFT TIRE WONT BLOW OUT , WHICH MEENS YOU GET YOUR AXLES BENT TO DEATH OR RIMS BENT TO THE POINT THEY RUB YOU CALIPERS.YES A 700 SERIES MAY BLOW OUT , BUT YOU CAN STILL MOVE , WITH A BROKEN OFF AXLE OR LOCKED UP FRONT CALIPER IT MAKES IT HARD TO MOVE, BUT THATS JUSS MY OPINION |
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ToRy
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USA
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Posted - Feb 04 2003 : 06:30:07
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| Nightmare, how much do yourtires weigh? I have a few sets of 20 ply mining tires. they weigh 90 pounds a peice without a rim. i have been trying to find a way to mount them. A buddy of mine sez he can cut a rim in half where he works and mount the tire then weld the rim back together. I am not so sure about this, but i will try anything! |
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Rustbkt29
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Posted - Feb 04 2003 : 07:07:10
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| AMCman, an easy solution to one of those problems is to just remove the front calipers. We always do, and just run rear drums. It sucks to try to move or steer with a wheel wrapped around the caliper. Just my 2 cents. |
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Amcman47
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Posted - Feb 09 2003 : 16:45:54
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| I HAVE HEARD OF PEOPLE DOING THAT BUT I REALLY LIKE HAVING ALL MY BRAKES WORKIN |
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David Gard
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Posted - Feb 09 2003 : 17:26:55
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| We run front brakes and no rears..... |
D54
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Steve Roseman
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Posted - Feb 09 2003 : 20:15:36
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I run rear brakes and no fronts...
HEY DAVE, YOU GOT YOUR CHOCOLATE IN MY PEANUT BUTTER! |
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Posted - Feb 09 2003 : 20:18:25
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| tory, im guessing my tires weight about 50 to 75 pnds. i checked on a website and they wanted $4oo.oo a tire brand new they say they need 150 pnds of air and withstand 14,500 pnds (i dont think my electra weighs that much)ill put them on the front,and i always take my calipers off and use rear brakes.useing just the back brakes saves your drive shaft from doing the slam, bam, thank ya man dance in the dirt!!! |
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David Gard
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Posted - Feb 09 2003 : 23:40:14
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| Good one Steve..... |
D54
Don't be stupid. If that is just you being you, for all of our sakes, please be somebody else |
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David Gard
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Posted - Feb 09 2003 : 23:45:49
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| nightmare....explain the connection between rear brakes only and driveshaft failure.....I always attributed that problem to incorrect pinion angle. |
D54
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Jim Foster
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USA
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Posted - Feb 10 2003 : 00:59:29
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or a 300 HP 305 |
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David Gard
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USA
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Posted - Feb 10 2003 : 09:42:44
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| Good one Jimmy.....we have twisted a few...I think it was immature welding mostly.....We're getting better at it. BTW, how's that 305 coming? |
D54
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Jim Foster
Advanced Member
USA
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Posted - Feb 10 2003 : 13:06:24
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| well after i got her back together i found a sweet set of rods and those roller push rods we talked about so saturday i tore her down...again...dropped off the pistons/old rods back off at the machine shop to get them put on the new rods so its taking longer than i had hoped but i think its all for the best in the long run...were you guys interested in that catalina? driver for 500 bucks, 74/or 75 the guy said |
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ToRy
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Posted - Feb 11 2003 : 18:20:57
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| Well, I just went to the local industrial tire shop today looking for a set of front tires, and the guy said that he can mount my 20 ply tires for me for $10 a peice. which is very cool! And mine require 150 lbs of air too. I know that they will hold the car up without it, but the air pressure will help keep them on the rim. I am only allowed to glue them to the rim in some demo's, no screws. |
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POPEYE
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Posted - Apr 06 2003 : 18:59:51
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GUYS YOU CAN MOUNT THE TOW MOTOR TIRES BY HAND .
I MOUNTED 4 8.25'S AND TUBED THEM IN ABOUT 1/2 HR.
GRANTED I WAS SWEATING MY ASS OFF WHEN DONE .SPRAY THE BEAD
WITH WD AND START MOUNTING .TRICK IS TO MOUNT THE BACK SIDE OF RIM FIRST .
LATER !!!!! |
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derby alex
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USA
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Posted - Apr 07 2003 : 15:20:23
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| hey guys when you take off the calipers,what do you do with the brake lines were do you cut those off, do you plug them,if you do what do you use to plug them? |
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jerelight
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USA
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Posted - Apr 07 2003 : 15:43:12
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| I've taken the line out of the master cyl. cut the fitting off the line and soldered it shut and reinstall it. Just make sure you clean the fitting good before soldering or welding. I know some guys just crimp theirs, but its not always perfect and you could lose your brakes. |
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Amcman47
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Posted - Apr 08 2003 : 11:09:26
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| I DONT SEE THE POINT IN RUNNING A 8.25 15 TIRE THEY ARE SO BIG THAT THEY HAVE TO HURT YOU, SOMETIMES BIGGER AND THICKER AINT ALWAYS BETTER, MY DAD HAS A TIRE RECYCLING BUSINESS SO I HAVE AN UNLIMITED SUPPLY OF TIRES FOR DERBYING, I SEE ALOT OF DIFFERENT TIRES RUN THRU THERE... RIGHT NOW WE GOT 20 14 INCH 14 PLY AIRCRAFT TIRES THERE....LOL... THEY ARE WILD LOOKING... |
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Tony Miller
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Posted - Dec 16 2003 : 15:20:53
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| ok, i got a ? for you. how does your tie rods hold up with the 90lb tire on the front of your car. i plan on foam filling some tires and was wanting to know if it was going to do more damage than help. |
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netmansteve
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Posted - Dec 16 2003 : 19:53:38
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Tony,
Run tie rods like I saw down at clint's shop a few years ago and you'll be fine. I've run tie rods built like that ever since that summer. |
Steve Bucknam Jr.
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smitty2
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Posted - Dec 16 2003 : 21:39:55
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| how are your tie rods built? |
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Tony Miller
Advanced Member
USA
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Posted - Dec 17 2003 : 08:39:01
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man i forgot all about that. i will have to give clint a call.
next time your in town how about getting some white castles. lol.
thanks steve. |
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Bobman
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Posted - Dec 17 2003 : 22:48:39
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we run front brakes only, and no rears, keep the tires spining, and for tire, skid loader tire, 16 with cheveron style tread, 125 for 2 around here, they are about 8 inches across
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gmwagonman
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Posted - Dec 18 2003 : 09:03:14
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I built some solid rubber tires for a Mustang II and had nothing but trouble. I got one tie rod broken and one bent in the first minute of the show. Won't run 'em on the front again.
I gave a buddy a pair of solid 15's for his Chryslers and he is having good luck with them.
To mount solid rubber tires, I had to split the rim with a sawsall or torch/plasma cutter. Do this on the inside of the rim. Wedge the tire on the rim and clamp the wheel back together and weld it up. I was not able to get the wheel completely together so I had to weld extra metal strips in there. That caused a problem by rubbing on the calipers. I shimmed them and also ground them down so it would roll smoothly. Lots of work for something that did not work well for me.
Good luck!
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derby alex
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USA
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Posted - Dec 22 2003 : 14:24:28
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| opps |
i.d.d.a.#809 |
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netmansteve
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Posted - Dec 22 2003 : 18:20:24
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alex,
When you run without fronts, you can buy a screw in plug that fits the master cylinder, or you can remove the line from the master and insert a small nail into the line and screw it back on. The nail head blocks the fluid from being able to get into the line.
I haven't forgotten about those pics of the battery cables for you, I should be able to mail them shortly after Christmas. |
Steve Bucknam Jr.
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MEMBER #16
Sugar Shack Racing
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jacobhyer
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USA
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Posted - Oct 05 2004 : 15:49:30
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| Fork lift tires are great up front.... I think you could have some rear end problems if you use them in the rear.... What you are looking for in fork lift tires are 15-700 new matics they are 18 ply and they can mount on a 15 in wheel and any tire shop can do it... I had this done... I payed $75 per tire... I think this is the way to go up front....jake in idaho |
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ltdman
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Posted - Oct 05 2004 : 21:36:32
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| I use fork lift tires up front and they work great. I have never had one get popped yet. Now I have a question that I read in this topic. Nightmare24 said that if you use just rear brakes that it helps save your rear u-joint how would just using back brakes help save a u-joint.I'm just curious how that works. |
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derbyman137
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Demo Junkie 92
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USA
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Posted - Oct 06 2004 : 20:29:31
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| I ran 7.50 x 15 14 ply forklift tires on all four this year with no flats. As far as brakes go I run only the fronts that way I can stomp the brakes with the left foot and the gas with the right. Trust me you can turn around real quick. |
Most people pull the trigger with their finger. I do it with my right foot.
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derbyguy33
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Canada
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Posted - Oct 08 2004 : 19:27:20
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| it's a lot easier on the transmission, driveshaft and u-joints using rear brakes because the tires are stopped before you shift.............going from forward to reverse is hard on everything if the wheels havent stopped spinning, that's why i personally like to run rear brakes........on muddy tracks without the rear brakes the tires never really stop spinning, on high traction tracks having no rear brakes wouldnt hurt anything though IMHO |
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Demo Junkie 92
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USA
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Posted - Oct 08 2004 : 20:47:28
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| Kick it into nuetral,clean the engine out,by that time the rears have stopped spinning. (In case of pending trackshot....HAMMER IT!!!!) |
Most people pull the trigger with their finger. I do it with my right foot.
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Lincolnman
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USA
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Posted - Oct 10 2004 : 19:32:09
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| What about the 700x15 12 ply forklift tires from Moore Tire worth buying? |
Ford powered since day one! |
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Demo Junkie 92
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Posted - Oct 11 2004 : 12:58:04
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| I ran the 7.50 x 15 14 plys from Moore Tire. It was definantely worth the money to me. In 3 derbies I had a broken axle and 3 bent wheels but no flats. |
Most people pull the trigger with their finger. I do it with my right foot.
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DemoCar82
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Posted - Oct 12 2004 : 09:57:41
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| Kick in nuetral, clean the engine out?! SAY WHAT? If I have to clean the engine out, my rads gone and she's getting HOT. I run back brakes just like derbyguy33 said. Easy on tranny, driveshaft, u-joints, rearend... everything... I don't feel good about going into the derby without 4 very well operating brakes, when someone tries to push, I lock em up... when I need to make short hits, I can fly up, lock em up and go again... makes everything nice. Forklift tires will be fine. |
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Demo Junkie 92
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USA
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Posted - Oct 12 2004 : 13:08:54
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| Don't lock em up drive through them. My carb and camshaft combo makes it necessary for me to "clean it out" every now and then. We are going to try something a little different this year in the motor. That's what I get when my motor guys are Drag racers. |
Most people pull the trigger with their finger. I do it with my right foot.
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derbyguy33
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Posted - Oct 12 2004 : 19:43:45
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| sometimes you have to lock them up to stay off the blocks ;) makes it much better for getting to the edge of the ring quickly and picking shots, and it's easier on everything, thats just my opinion though |
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DemoCar82
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Posted - Oct 13 2004 : 09:33:56
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| A lot of the time I "drive right through them", but when I don't like the shot or am close to the wall or something, I for sure want the stopping power... and for door shots, lock em up so the offcials can really see your trying to stop. Makes a big difference all around to have 4 operating brakes. |
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derbyman137
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Posted - Oct 13 2004 : 23:22:33
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| Democar is right. I ALWAYS make damn sure all 4 brakes are working before I derby a car. |
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BelloDemo222
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USA
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Posted - Jun 04 2006 : 01:14:50
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| OK To all the DEMO PROs out there.... I'm looking for any suggestions for running a 1981 Cadillac Superior Hearse. Any useful tips with Cadillacs, tires, etc. would be a great help. I'd love to come home with a trophy this year with the Grim Ride. My email is BelloDemo222@aol.com Thanks! Eddie |
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Bashbro
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Posted - Jun 14 2006 : 12:04:44
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| how did he find this post it is 2 years old?????? |
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mini monster
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USA
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Posted - Aug 14 2006 : 15:04:38
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| run all your brakes!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! |
I would say im going for broke if I were not all ready broke, so its balls to the walls |
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D adicted
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Posted - Sep 01 2006 : 20:21:00
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| thats a good question. i was wondering what the heck about this. i was about to comment on something somebody else said, but then i realized that it was 2yrs old. good thing too b/c it was the 3rd or 4th reply. lol. |
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NDdemoderby06
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Posted - Sep 27 2006 : 17:02:37
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| Has anyone ever used Aircraft tires...i have seen some before and 16 ply of solid rubber and I thought it would be a good idea...anyone ever ran them? |
Brandon H.
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bruiser
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USA
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Posted - Sep 30 2006 : 08:57:20
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| real hard to set a good bead with forklift tires. if you cant screw them to the rim than i wouldnt use them. all they seem to do is push of the bead. |
if it's still striaght it must be cheated!!!
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JRdemolition
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Posted - Apr 14 2009 : 21:32:02
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i run rear brakes and just the front one on the drivers side. plug the other one cause were i run you get hit more on the passenger side than the drivers becuase of the drivers door.
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